OSHNA Walmart update

Walmart Plans to Build a New Store in Seminole Heights

Walmart Stores has purchased the property at 1720 E Hillsborough Avenue.This property was previously an auto dealer. We recently received notice that they had applied for waivers with the City of Tampa Public Works Transportation Division and those waivers were approved. This was the first and only communication received by the association regarding Walmart.

We have not received any notice of a public hearing on this matter.

There were two applications filed and approved. The first was for two driveways on 19th Street. According to the waiver, the southern driveway is for truck access and the northern driveway is for customer access. The intent of both driveways is to separate customer and truck access while keeping trucks away from the residential neighborhood to the north.There are two existing driveways on this segment of 19th St serving the commercial property of McDonalds and the Erwin Technical Center.

The second application was two fold. First there was a variance granted for two driveways on Mohawk. One driveway will serve as access to the development, whereas the other will serve as a turn-around before vehicles enter the access driveway. The second part of this application proposed a traffic light at 19th St. and Hillsborough Avenue as a safety upgrade. This part of the application was also approved by the city in February.

This property, though not within the historic district is within the Overlay District and will have to conform to those guidelines.

There may or may not be a public hearing in the future in relation to the Walmart development. We will let you know as soon as we receive any further notification.

61 Comments:

  1. I wuz hoping it wuz gonna be another hair did place.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    8:58 AM

  2. This is very worrisome. Wal Mart is known for putting local businesses out of business by undercutting prices and by being a one-stop shoppping for everything. It could even affect the local Publix on Nebraska Ave. What does BGOSH say about this? I hope that OSH residents will protest the Wal Mart store opening.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    9:13 AM

  3. Walmart is known for putting out of business, shops that were overpriced and undervalued due to a lack of competition. Of course a mom and pop that relies on selling basic overpriced commodity goods cannot compete with the mass market big box. However, I’d venture to say that customers of Cleanse, and Health Mutt are not shopping at Walmart for items they can buy locally now even though they’re only a few minutes closer by Interstate. People drive from all over the Bay area to go to Sherry’s.
    Our Publix is overrun, and nearly impossible to patronize during peak hours, so this might actually help our store, because I and others I know may once again start shopping there instead of the West Tampa store if Walmart absorbs some of the burden.

    Family Dollar is probably the local store that stands the most to lose by this.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    10:41 AM

  4. Walmart is known for putting out of business, shops that were overpriced and undervalued due to a lack of competition. Of course a mom and pop that relies on selling basic overpriced commodity goods cannot compete with the mass market big box. However, I’d venture to say that customers of Cleanse, and Health Mutt are not shopping at Walmart for items they can buy locally now even though they’re only a few minutes closer by Interstate. People drive from all over the Bay area to go to Sherry’s.
    Our Publix is overrun, and nearly impossible to patronize during peak hours, so this might actually help our store, because I and others I know may once again start shopping there instead of the West Tampa store if Walmart absorbs some of the burden.

    Family Dollar, is probably the local store that stands the most to lose by this. So consider that for a moment.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    10:42 AM

  5. Walmart is known for putting out of business, shops that were overpriced and undervalued due to a lack of competition. Of course a mom and pop that relies on selling basic overpriced commodity goods cannot compete with the mass market big box. However, I’d venture to say that customers of Cleanse, and Health Mutt are not shopping at Walmart for items they can buy locally now even though they’re only a few minutes closer by Interstate. People drive from all over the Bay area to go to Sherry’s.
    Our Publix is overrun, and nearly impossible to patronize during peak hours, so this might actually help our store, because I and others I know may once again start shopping there instead of the West Tampa store if Walmart absorbs some of the burden.

    Family Dollar and such predatory value stores, are probably the local stores that stands the most to lose by this news.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    10:43 AM

  6. Walmart is known for putting out of business, local shops that were overpriced and offered low value due to a lack of competition. Of course a mom and pop that relies on selling basic overpriced commodity goods cannot compete with the mass market big box. However, I’d venture to say that customers of Cleanse, and Health Mutt are not shopping at Walmart for items they can buy locally now even though they’re only a few minutes closer by Interstate. People drive from all over the Bay area to go to Sherry’s.
    Our Publix is overrun, and nearly impossible to patronize during peak hours, so this might actually help our store, because I and others I know may once again start shopping there instead of the West Tampa store if Walmart absorbs some of the burden.

    Family Dollar and such predatory value stores, are probably the local stores that stands the most to lose by this news.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    10:44 AM

  7. Walmart is known for putting out of business, local shops that were overpriced and offered low value due to a lack of competition. Of course a mom and pop that relies on selling basic overpriced commodity goods cannot compete with the mass market big box. However, I’d venture to say that customers of Cleanse, and Health Mutt are not shopping at Walmart for items they can buy locally now even though they’re only a few minutes closer by Interstate. People drive from all over the Bay area to go to Sherry’s.
    Our Publix is overrun, and nearly impossible to patronize during peak hours, so this might actually help our neighborhood store, because I and others I know may once again start shopping there instead of the West Tampa store if Walmart absorbs some of the burden.

    Family Dollar and such predatory value stores, are probably the local stores that stands the most to lose by this news.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    10:45 AM

  8. I don’t think this walmart is going to have an effect on local businesses. They don’t sell rims, they don’t sell hair weave, they don’t do vet services, they aren’t a pawn shop so which businesses could they affect? Publix will gain back customers who have gone elsewhere because they don’t want to deal with the current clientel of the store.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    11:46 AM

  9. It’s not a bad thing. It’s redevelopment of a parcel that has sat empty and been in slow delcine for several years.

    anon

    2013.03.11
    11:48 AM

  10. Personally, I support Walmart and will fight to help them come to the neighborhood. There is NOTHING that walmart sells that would compete with our mom and pop stores. Publix is NOT mom and pop. Quite frankly our publix sucks. It has awful service and the produce is the worst! This is excellent news. It will help clean up Hillsborough and attract other businesses like restaurants, etc. Enough with the “Death to big box” businesses. If you don’t like them is one thing but to kill for all is the wrong approach. Look at the lot CVS was trying to develop. How did that work out for you?

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    1:55 PM

  11. wow, reading these comments, I feel like I’m living in Riverview or Lutz with all the Wal-Mart lovers out there. You only need to look at recent history to show that Wal-Mart brings bad things to bad people. Their unfair competition already been cited as one of the main reasons that many Sweetbay Supermarkets have closed. In fact, it could be part of the reason why the Sweetbay at Armenia and Hillsborough closed recently… they realized they couldn’t compete with a soon-to-open WalMart Supercenter. Also, how does this affect thriving local businesses like HealthMutt and Cleanse Apothecary. It will negatively affect them, no doubt. These local businesses are your friends and neighbors and they give back to the community. Wal-Mart extracts from the community. I recommend reading “Big Box Swindle”, an excellent book that shows the true impact of big box stores. Wal-Mart is the worst of all of them.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    2:09 PM

  12. I too support Walmart. I shop at both Cleanse and Health Mutt as well and will continue to do so. Can you tell me how they cross over? Walmart sells Purina Puppy Chow. Health Mutt does not. The clientele shopping at Health mutt will not be going to Walmart for food. Same with Cleanse. I do like Walmart Groceries and will shop there when open.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    2:18 PM

  13. What business in our neighborhood would be negatively impacted by Walmart?

    Sherrys? Her store is vintage and used items
    Cleanse? He has high end candles, soaps, lotions.
    Health Mutt – Specialty Dog food (Not carried by Walmart) The only stores that may be impacted would be grocery retailers. In this area the competition may be good to help drive down prices by the overpriced Publix and Sweetbay. I would rather see development versus the homeless camps and drunks hanging out at a vacant lot.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    2:21 PM

  14. Again, I encourage you to read “Big Box Swindle”. There have been many studies done to show how big box development negatively affects small businesses. This is not just about Hillsborough Ave… this will affect businesses in a 10 or 15 mile radius. How will it affect the farmers market on Hillsborough Avenue too? They will likely lose business. How will it affect potential new small businesses? It will scare off small retailers, while attracting other big box development, which will kill more small businesses. You are very short sighted if you don’t see how negatively this will affect Old Seminole Heights.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    2:29 PM

  15. 229 I disagree. I shop at farmers market for often times, fresher produce. That would not change. People continue to demonize Walmart. Most claims are unfounded.

    I need to buy bath towels. Who in the neighborhood would have these? I need a new crock pot. I need shaving cream, etc. Not only will Walmart offer these products, but it will make it closer to home therefore saving me gas. Thereby putting more money in my pocket.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    3:05 PM

  16. How about Nursery Experience? This will help put them out of business. Vivant House? Out of business. House of Meats and Huracan Supermarket? Sayonara. B&D Supermarket? Buh-bye. Sanwa Market? Thanks for expanding, but no thanks. Need I go on?

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    3:07 PM

  17. ” this will affect businesses in a 10 or 15 mile radius.”
    Uh, No.
    That covers every Wallmart from Fletcher and 22nd. to Dale Mabry and Fletcher, Dale Mabry and I-127. The one in Brandon, Oh wait, there’s also one at Fla. and Bush. need I go on?
    Seems like lots of businesses are thriving amongst all those Wallmarts.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    5:36 PM

  18. The one at Busch and Florida is not a Super Wal-Mart… only has groceries. This Wal Mart will cover Ybor City, Sulphur Springs, Seminole Heights, East Tampa, Y.M. Ybor, etc, etc.

    Businesses are not thriving amongst all those other Wal Marts… didn’t you hear the news about Sweetbays closing all over the Tampa Bay area due Wal Mart being a loss leader and having unfair competition. Or do you read the news?

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    7:26 PM

  19. They are building another super walmart at Busch and Nebraska as well.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    7:46 PM

  20. Busch and Nebraska? That’s unreal! Wal Mart is trying to take over the world. Another good reason not to support this new OSH atrocity.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    8:06 PM

  21. 7:46 pm
    Try Bearss and Nebraska

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    8:40 PM

  22. Trust me. If you buy meat at a butcher shop, you will not be shopping at Walmart for meat. The Walmart is killing mom and pop is mainly hype.

    I support Walmart and the redevelopment it may bring.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    9:47 PM

  23. Let’s be honest. Sweet bay closed because they were way overpriced, had poor selection and service was beyond poor.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.11
    9:48 PM

  24. “The Walmart is killing mom and pop is mainly hype”? Are you for real?! You obviously haven’t studied up on Walmart’s history. They built their reputation on killing small local businesses in downtown and other small shopping areas throughout the U.S. and now the world. I recommend reading this Wikipedia article to find out why we should be worried about the arrival of WalMart in our neighborhood. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Walmart

    Anonymous

    2013.03.12
    6:34 AM

  25. I support the Walmart. We need another grocery option. And yes buying towels and crockpots, Christmas lights, bath rugs, planters, toys for the grankids are all things I have to leave the neighborhood for. I spend a lot of time at the target at I-275 and dale mabry so this would be helpful. It’s not gonna impact our local businesses since none of them sell this stuff anyway. It’s better than another dollar store or heaven forbids another car lot.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.12
    7:39 AM

  26. Oh, this should be fun! So Walmart is going to run our local businesses out of town? First, name me a viable local business that Walmart will compete with? Sherry’s, Cleanse, Health Mutt are not Walmart competitors. Nursery Experience really isn’t either and may not have a sustainable business model anyway. Sweetbay’s downfall was by there own doing and is not a local business anyway. A new Super Walmart will likely bring a new, clean gas station with it among other redevelopment. Maybe not Mom and Pop – but face it, our local demographics (the 90% who don’t read the blog or put out No Family Dollar signs) favor big box stores. Many have this view of instant utopia – all mom-pop stores selling feel good items, granola, the latest super-foods, and fancy items. Name me a local mom-pop shop selling essentials and household goods (coffee maker, toilet paper, sporting goods, underwear, etc) that are reasonably priced. Everyone in SH drives to Target or Walmart for essential items not available in SH. It’s the NIMBY argument again. Guess what – the demographics in Greater Seminole Heights (and especially in the area surrounding the porposed Walmart) support store-brand potato chips, off-brand cola, etc. For Mom-Pop to survive in SH they must pull customers from South Tampa like Cleanse and Ella’s does. Those who want and can afford lifes luxuries are not the majority in SH – at least not yet! The proposed Walmart is a shot in the arm for that area. Now, let’s get on with all the skewed statistics and the “studies” touting how SH will be destroyed since it seems to be what a small minority of SH lives for! By the way, I hate Walmart!

    Anonymous

    2013.03.12
    8:05 AM

  27. It takes an hour to buy anything at a Super Walmart. I don’t know how they would fit a Super Walmart in that space. The only Walmart I know that’s small enough to fit is the one in Valrico. It might just be a Neighborhood Market.

    Joe P

    2013.03.12
    8:08 AM

  28. Does seem like a small spot for a super walmart.
    Also, I hate walmart. my blood boils just walking into one. That being said, I have nothing wrong with a walmart going there. In fact I think it’s a good idea and think it will have no negative effect on this neighborhood.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.12
    8:19 AM

  29. I hate to break it to the anti Walmart crowd, but that part of Seminole Heights will NEVER attract the kind of businesses you want in your lifetime. Look at loss statistics. When over half your potential customers are going to come from East Tampa you get what you get.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.12
    8:26 AM

  30. What do we have that is an alternative to Wal-mart? Where do you buy your clothes? Is there a store in the mall whose practices you condone? Where do you get your stuff that does not hurt others? Where can you get a t-shirt that doesn’t require 700 gallons of water? How is Wal-mart any worse than Publix or Whole Foods?

    michelle barron

    2013.03.15
    10:27 PM

  31. And what the hell is the East Tampa comment supposed to mean?

    michelle barron

    2013.03.15
    10:28 PM

  32. 10:28 pm
    “And what the hell is the East Tampa comment supposed to mean?”
    You have to ask?

    Anonymous

    2013.03.16
    4:51 AM

  33. Really Michelle? It’s obvious. Get out much?

    Anonymous

    2013.03.16
    9:40 AM

  34. Ugly comments, rascist comments, what an amazingly informed discussion. Very hateful people seem to be the ones commenting. Should I assume that this tells me about as much about Seminole Heights as all the veiled “East Tampa” comments?

    Anonymous

    2013.03.19
    8:06 AM

  35. ASSsume whatever you want. East Tampa means exactly what to you? Why do you ASSume East Tampa is about race? Have you looked at crime and loss statistics? Have you looked at disposable income numbers? Perhaps you should step outside of your own bias and hate-filled goggles to look at this in a rational and logical light. East Tampa residents, be they black, white, orange or purple, do not offer the numbers, the dollars, the risk analysis, and ROIs that would lead an upscale niche business owner to setup shop along that stretch of highway.
    It is your own skewed view of the world, filled with hate and envy, and lack of individual pride that leads you to ASSume that comment was about race. Tell me, why do YOU hate black people so much?

    Anonymous

    2013.03.19
    9:19 AM

  36. The problem with Walmart is that they have terrible products & terrible service. Their low prices attract folks who cannot afford better. Because the products are often (not all) so low quality, the promise of good value is only an illusion. In other words, it’s a rip-off that is making the rich richer & the poor more deficient in basic goods.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.20
    6:56 PM

  37. 6:56 pm
    So they have the non choice of Low quality (dubious as everything I’ve every bought from Wallmart worked as intended) or nothing at all. When they can only afford some of the things they need and have to forgo others so as to live up to your level of quality and service.
    You go to Macy’s and just leave them alone to go to Wallmart (After they stopped by Ross down the street)

    Anonymous

    2013.03.20
    7:37 PM

  38. For those bashing Walmart as crappy quality, I don’t think you have been lately. Walmart has really stepped it up. The stores are improving, they have widened the isles. I have been a target fan for years but must say Walmart is gaining on them. Target made a huge mistake when they did away with their garden center. Now I rarely have reason to go.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.20
    10:03 PM

  39. ..speaking of Garden center and who will be impacted by WM.. °°°Mannys•••… who not only delivered a Magnolia, but also made sure it was the right spot-right plant, then also planted it and made sure it was fully watered in! Love that his plants adapt si quickly when put in the ground since they aren’t greenhoused.

    ..multiple sites have had postings about plants at badbox-WallyWorld.
    So to those who crow that WM won’t hurt our MomPop shops… hope to see you continue supporting Mannys.

    Regardless of the product quality at WM _it’s their leaching from local govt and lack of benefits for their employees that have earned them their blackeye. Bigbox doesn’t have to be bad.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.21
    6:46 PM

  40. Wallmart don’t do garden centers anymore.
    Next….

    Anonymous

    2013.03.21
    9:15 PM

  41. 6:46… that’s a really good point about Wal Mart leaching from local governments and underpaying and overworking (i.e., not paying overtime) their workers. And big box isn’t always bad. Costco treats its employees right, but they also leach from the local governments too.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.22
    10:02 AM

  42. Walmart does do garden centers, they removed the garden center in some locations to expand the store. Manny’s isn’t going to hurt because of Walmart. We already have Home Depot which is way cheaper than Walmart on most plants and Manny’s. What’s going to hurt Manny’s is their lack of selection and the increase in price. THey used to have great prices not so much anymore. Sure Manny’s will deliver and plant for an extra $100 but they don’t have a warranty on their plants and I’ve had a number of Manny’s plants die. I think they are very nice but when it comes to plants people are going to go where there is a good selection with inexpensive prices and Walmart isn’t it.

    Anonymous

    2013.03.22
    11:20 AM

  43. Did you read the article in today’s paper about publix leeching off government and taking advantage of workers? They all do it

    Anonymous

    2013.03.23
    7:30 AM

  44. Publix is employee owned and as a part-timer you can purchase stock and have health insurance……I had this very same conversation about those part-timer benefits with a WalMart employee – wait no I didn’t….

    anon

    2013.03.23
    8:46 AM

  45. Hey heres a novel concept everyone has power over their own pocket book—if you dont like the business there—-dont patronize it—i for one plan to do this with the family dollar when it opens and hope it fails—-dont go on to me about the “job loss that creates” businesses that do not pay their employees a living wage keep people enslaved…no matter who they are

    Damian

    2013.04.07
    9:30 AM

  46. As a 13 year resident of Seminole Heights I welcome a Walmart in the neighborhood. Now I am driving all the way to Fletcher to shop or Dale Mabry.

    apple77k

    2013.09.24
    3:43 PM

  47. 8:46
    A doubt a part time Publix employee can afford his portion of the Health Care premium
    Damian FamilyDollar is open and Kickin it!
    & Nobody’s forced to work at Walmart
    ooh How about the shitty wages that the servers @ local restaurants are paid (make sure you tip at least 20% so they make at least the min. wage)

    Anonymous

    2013.09.24
    4:00 PM

  48. Instead of landlord training, they should do training to their own code officers. If these officers knew how to see, cite and follow up that would save about 90% of the issues. How does a landlord get a rental certificate without an annual inspection by code. How does a landlord get a certificate if they have open violations? Stop the lip service and actually do your job and enforce code.

    Anonymous

    2013.09.27
    2:39 AM

  49. 9:24
    For good to excellent service be good to your servers
    30% + don’t be a cheap bastard

    Anonymous

    2013.09.27
    3:16 AM

  50. 2:39 – the issue is how it is enforced . If the fine me and I don’t pay, nothing happens to me unless I try to sell. Then I can negotiate my fines down to almost nothing . So what’s my motivation?

    Anonymous

    2013.09.27
    3:30 AM

  51. 30% you are high! 20% for excellent, 15 for good, 10 for bad. It’s so frustrating how tip jars have ruined the entire service industry. The jar at Starbucks drives me crazy. They want a dollar tip to get a cup of coffee. Really? Do you think these baristas tip McDonalds servers? They work a lot harder at McDonald’s than Starbucks. There are so many that should not be in the service industry. I used to still give them 15%. Then I realized I was only encouraging them to stay in the field. If people would tip what the server is worth,you would see more leaving the industry or stepping up the level of service.

    Anonymous

    2013.09.27
    9:28 AM

  52. 330 I agree. Why doesn’t the city take action, place liens or add to city utilities, or barter fees for volunteer work, or community service? Sadly local governments can’t run their on budgets very wisely. If they would think of the code office as a revenue generator you would see the city cleaned up in a month.

    Anonymous

    2013.09.27
    9:32 AM

  53. 30% if you want them to have an almost livable wage. There base pay is around 4.00 an hour. I don’t like Starbucks overpriced burnt coffee so they won’t see me or a tip.

    Anonymous

    2013.09.27
    12:30 PM

  54. Keep in mind that the tip should reflect the amount of work as well as the quality of service. Have a messy child – tip more. Have a $8 breakfast with good service? Tip more than the normal percentage – they do just as much work as a dinner server but the meals just cost less. Poor service? Don’t just leave a low tip – let someone know that your service was poor.

    Anonymous

    2013.09.27
    12:50 PM

  55. Summary: 10 Dec meeting w/Walmart that was held in East Tampa:
    •The WalMart will be a mini-Super WM. 120,ooo sq ft ( they said avg Super is 190,000 sq ft)
    • no garden center/plants
    • no alcohol pkg store
    • no car lube.

    Got zilch commitment from them regarding the traffic impact to nearby SemHts residents, especially those poor folks on Mohawk/Comanche and 15th.
    ~the Idlewild increase after Albertsons closed is nothing compared to what a Goliath like Walmart will create if access( exiting WM onto Mohawk) is not closed off to stop cut-thru to Nebraska using Mohawk … or northbound using 15th.

    No luck so far on making changes to the facade of the building to conform to the historic look and feel of Seminole Heights ,
    ~they are putting in the “Latest” ‘Newest’ corporate design..
    They say its bn submitted and they don’t intend to change it.
    They have no interest in doing a facade that they did for Kenwood in St.Pete
    Mind blowing was that the WM reps claimed to have never heard about the Kenwood store nor its design.
    They also claimed that Land Use never-ever mentioned the pending FBZ design guidelines. Nope. not.a.whisper.
    So they are sticking to the basics that are outlined in the county’s Comprehensive Plan.. (which was used as a battering ram to kill the CVS at Sligh-Nebraska)

    Apology(?) from one of the reps after the mtg: “I’m sure you feel like I’ve told you to go pound sand… ~ sorry etc blah-blah-blah…”

    Anonymous

    2013.12.12
    1:04 PM

  56. I’m not surprised at all that Wal Mart reps would feign ignorance on the Kenwood design. They will get away with murder if you let them, and of course, the City of Tampa will let them. What do you Wal Mart fans think about this? I warned you all it would be a disaster.

    Anonymous

    2013.12.12
    2:04 PM

  57. “Disaster”, interesting conclusion.

    Anonymous

    2013.12.13
    2:20 PM

  58. All this for 7.93 an hour jobs do we really need it?

    Anonymous

    2013.12.13
    7:43 PM

  59. “All this for 7.93 an hour jobs do we really need it?”
    Who’s the “We” you’re speaking of?
    Ask the ones getting the jobs if “They” really need it.

    Anonymous

    2013.12.14
    8:25 AM

  60. I guess your right if they are ignorant enough to work for those wages.

    Anonymous

    2013.12.14
    8:32 AM

  61. “I guess your right if they are ignorant enough to work for those wages.”
    I think the word is “Desperate”
    If you need money and lack any skills, getting a job at WM is an intelligent decision.

    Unless you’d rather them say “F*** it” and devote their mental energies to gaming the welfare system.

    Anonymous

    2013.12.14
    11:11 AM

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