The great cat debate continues

Readers, below is an email that was sent from a poster regarding the cat trapping. Please read on:

Blogger, below is an email that was sent to respond to a patch author doing an article regarding the comment left on here about the pending cat trapping. Please share this with your readers. To clarify, as of today, I have received one email from neighbors. So those stating that dozens of emails have been sent are bold face lying and instead of being part of the solution have chosen to stir the pot and continue the problem. Below is the correspondence. Thanks for sharing.

Sincerely,

Candice
Seminole Heights

Camille, Thanks for emailing. I think our efforts have been vilified by the readers of both sites and the neighborhood email groups.

1) We aren’t running random and entering peoples properties chasing loose cats. That was never mentioned. We have received about 18 emails asking for help at specific addresses and locations on private, home owner or rented properties.

2) All cats will be checked for microchip, ear notching and tags. This was stated in the original post. Any cats matching these requirements will be released.

3) We are not “running rogue” to kill the cats. We are trying to minimize the destructive pattern that has been persisting for many year.

Neighbors tend to forget that while they support something or some cause, their neighbor may not share the same view. We need to realize that all neighbors have rights. For most they have attempted to solve the problems without trapping. What we are doing is not illegal. We are helping neighbors trap cats. Hope this helps.

65 Comments:

  1. Candice thanks for clarifying. I have one stray cat that I trapped and took to have fixed. I get its shots as needed. It is notched. I tried putting bell and collar on it but it always falls off. After several collars I gave up. This makes me rest a bit easier.

    Lisa Hall

    2013.02.05
    9:20 PM

  2. I stumbled across an interesting read about a group of vets (2 actually) that are working to have the TNR programmed banned.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/feral-cat-tnvr-programs-under-fire-hillsborough-county

    Anonymous

    2013.02.05
    9:22 PM

  3. For the Trap Neuter and Release program. Who should pay for this? The neighbors who hate cats therefore choose not to own one? The elderly person on a fixed income and weakened immune system?

    Anonymous

    2013.02.05
    9:49 PM

  4. If everyone chips in and pays we can reverse the cycle.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.05
    9:53 PM

  5. There have been many comments supporting trapping in the neighborhood. I understand this is an emotional issue.
    Please keep in mind currently HCAS is overwhelmed with a recent influx of cats. Trapping your neighborhood cats may not necessarily lead to their immediate death but will surely limit the time others are allotted for possible adoption. All other humane options should be utilized before trapping. Too many lives are negatively impacted by trapping.
    As an additional issue to consider please read the following link:
    http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fhsus.typepad.com%2Fwayne%2F2013%2F01%2Fcats-wildlife-hsus-perspective.html&h=-AQFmK0dSAQFMW5Daa0DxOqM-uk_0OpNGhf_rxlgXBpXWwQ&s=1

    Anonymous

    2013.02.05
    9:56 PM

  6. Great. Now we have kitty wellfare. I DO NOT own a cat. I do not like cats. Why am I paying for them? Where should I come to pick up a check for the repairs to my car hood where they have scratched the paint? Seems fair to have it work both ways.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.06
    4:37 AM

  7. Since the Associations focus should be to improve the neighborhoods, why cant they offer assistance to help cover spaying cost? The associations has 10s of 1000s of dollars from years of home tour. Let’s put some of this money to good use. Overtime, we can make a dent in the cat population.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.06
    9:39 AM

  8. So if a cat is not chipped or tagged or the ear notched, then what happens to the cat? No mention of that I see. What do you do with them? Take them to get euthanized? I would be happy to donate to get them fixed and released. I have absolutely no problems with roaming cats or for that matter, chickens (which are in my neighborhood) either. This is one of the things that I absolutely love about my neighborhood and I would hate to see it turn into a green manicured lawn nightmare full of uppity repressed pinched faced orange lipsticked ladies and their starched collared husbands with their hybrid cars (just to pretend they are cool), NO WAY, YUCK! KEEP THE CATS IN AND THE UGLY CATOPHOBES OUT! GO AWAY CAT HATERS, MOVE TO CARROLLWOOD!

    Anonymous

    2013.02.06
    9:10 PM

  9. There are cat haters in our neighborhood. I have personally seen cars speed up and try to hit a cat. These individuals relish every morsel of negative cat information. If you were to listen to their rants you would think that cats are the most disease ridden and nasty animal in the hood. Really?? What about the raccoons? Raccoon poop is alive with bacteria and parasites (Leptospirosis) and they poop in my fountain, they will poop in your pool, on your porch and on your roof! At least cats make an attempt to bury their poop. What about those birds? Bird poop is also full of bacteria and they are carriers of many diseases…avian flu, West Nile Virus, Hitoplasmosis. Bird handlers are continually warned at Busch Gardens to wash and sanitize their hands after touching their their charges. And Rats!! Good lord..Bubonic plague, Hantavirus, Hemorrhagic fever ..all pretty deadly. Those who commented that they did not see a rat problem in the hood should give a nod to Fluffy. Cats were killed by the thousands in Medieval Europe and historians posit the theory that the cats were the first line of defense against the rats who carried the fleas which carried the plague. The virtual elimination of the cats increased the severity of the plague.
    Yes, cats do kill birds at times, but the human population is the biggest threat to all wildlife. Yes, the cat population must be controlled, but please stop demonizing the feline.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.07
    1:27 AM

  10. This so-called “Candce’s” reply should be taken worth a grain of salt. I know she has received a number of emails about the situation, which “she” has chosen to ignore. Also, “her” identity is bogus. In the email I saw, she used “Candice Nelson” in the sender’s name and signed it “Candace.” Who does not know how to spell their own name? “She” also cited assistance from a vet who will let them use a microchip scanner. However “Thom Harrison” is not and never has been a licensed vet in the state of Florida. Believing anything “she” says is simply foolish.

    cleo

    2013.02.07
    7:13 AM

  11. Here is a simple and humane solution. Cat lovers. pay to fix the cats and find a solution to keep them on your property and not infringe on those who don’t like them. Cat Haters, instead of trapping and killing contact your cat loving neighbor to get them to catch neuter and release on their property.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.07
    7:41 AM

  12. Cleo you are in idiot. Even you couldn’t spell Candice. Ever heard of spell check? Ever use siri in an in email. One letter off? And you seriously know every vet licensed in Florida. You must be the psycho deranged Cat lady perpetuating the problem. And I am sure Cleo is your real name! Ha, Meow!!!

    Anonymous

    2013.02.07
    8:02 AM

  13. Cleo you may want to call Tallahassee. There are over 10 T Harrisons, Thom H’s and almost 40 variations of similar. I don’t find it out of the realm of possibilities that a vet would offer assistance. Vets do not like the TNR program and are fighting the counties to have it outlawed.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.07
    8:10 AM

  14. Microchip scanners are available online and cheap.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.07
    8:11 AM

  15. Cleo, This is Candice. My name is with an “I” and often times auto-corrected with an “A”. While I make every attempt to correct sometimes it does get by me. As for your accusation that we have not responded to emails is an out right fabrication. As of today, there have been 3 individuals email. 1) Sam wrote of feral coyotes. 2) Randi a concerned neighbor that asked questions and received answers. 3) A writer for patch with had received the one email that had the Candace corrected with an “A”. In total, Sam wrote once, Randi 4 and Camille 5 times. I do NOT appreciate your lies. If you want to have a true discussion to solve the issue that is one thing. But to smear lies, etc will not be accepted. I have said before that you are more than welcomed to send me an email if you have a direct question. The email is cattrap2013@ymail.com. There has been no lies or sneaking around on this side.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.07
    4:44 PM

  16. That’s interesting, “Candice.” I just typed your name into several different email programs and a word document and it was not auto-corrected. Would you mind telling us where you live? You are not listed as a property owner in Hillsborough County. And if there are no lies and sneaking around, why don’t you detail your plans for the whole community to see? Who are the 27 or 43 volunteers you have? How did you find them, if no one is emailing you? What are the 18 addresses where you are asked to trap cats, so people know to keep there pets locked inside? How did you get 18 addresses to trap at, if no one emailed you? Did everyone walk up to you on the street or call you because they know who you are and give you this informaiton? You wanted direct questions and now you have them. You should not be ashamed to answer them to the community if everything is so legitimate.

    cleo

    2013.02.08
    8:51 AM

  17. Wow, it just goes to show just how deranged the cathuggers can be.

    Frank Sansbeans

    2013.02.08
    10:16 AM

  18. Yes, we are cathuggers, doghuggers, chichenhuggers, community-gardenhuggers, artistshuggers, treehuggers, arthuggers, etc..you get my drift, I hope. Drive around during elections and peruse the vast spread of yard signs that say “Democrat” in a variety of forms. Walk around and count the “peace” signs, the quirky porch decor (including those forsaken creatures of Satan, a.k.a. cats), the unexpected “free books” bookshelf, the surprising garden sculpture, the CHICKENS…this is NOT Hyde Park. You want a conservative neighborhood? Go somewhere else.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.08
    7:48 PM

  19. Cleo I think you are crazy. I just typed Candkce in and it said would you like to correct to Candice or Candace. Seems like you have chosen to take the petty road. I have been trying to read through all of your comments to find what your solution was. Couldn’t find any solution from you. Yet you have had time to trash Candice, google for vets (which there are actually several) Hunt for Candices Home. And you wonder why nothing is accomplished and why neighbors are afraid to offer more details. Judging by your history, I think you could possibly cause personal harm if you knew an address. I don’t see what all the flap is about. They will place traps in yard in which the home owner as offered or requested. If the cats are legal they will be let go. Yes, Feral colonies are legal if they meet the criteria. You MUST fix the animals. Thus they would have ear notch, tatoo possibly tags, etc. Not rocket science. It would be great if all match but I am betting there will be some that will not make. Its called the circle of life my friends.

    Mike

    2013.02.08
    11:37 PM

  20. So if you don’t like cats that means you are conservative? Never heard that. I moved to SH for it’s quirkiness. I was attracted to shops, bars, restaurants. I am allergic to cats so I don’t own one. Not that I hate them. They make life miserable for me. Yet they love my porch chairs. I have tried putting tin foil, spraying with deterrent but the don’t care. I am open to suggestions. Just because I want them gone does not make me bad and banned from the neighborhood. Lets all get along and work together.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.08
    11:40 PM

  21. Candy has all the Cat Ladies in an uproar on Patch demanding dates. Really what purpose would that serve? The purposes seems to be to encourage irresponsible cat owners to bring their cats indoors. If they give the date that would be like telling a drug addict that they will be tested next Friday. Suck it up, take care of your cats and let your neighbors live in peace.

    Cameron T.

    2013.02.08
    11:48 PM

  22. The purpose is that all the neighbors like Candice herself says “tend to forget that while they support something or some cause, their neighbor may not share the same view. We need to realize that all neighbors have rights.” Therefore we have a right to know when and where this is happening.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.09
    12:04 AM

  23. 1204 it happening now. I think the trappers gave fair warning. I have a feral cat so I went out and purchase a collar for mine and put it’s tags on him. Pretty simple. In addition his ear has been clipped. Most people are panicked as they have many cats and they aren’t all up to snuff. If you are worried. Chances are you are the cat lady that caused neighbors to start this to begin with. When your “rights” are destroying your neighbors personal property then there is issue. What if your neighbor let their dogs run free? What if (and this is actually happening); your elderly neighbor was feeding a colony of raccoons? you would be calling the city every day if you felt they were destroying your property, threatening your precious kitties, rummaging your garbage.

    Now put yourself in your neighbors shoes. Your raccoon is their cat.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.09
    4:25 AM

  24. I think we should get the Mons Venus girls to promote TNR: it would be T&A for TNR. That would be awesome.

    Seriously, you crazy cat bitchez need to calm down and stop complaining about people trying to solve the feral cat problem.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.09
    8:44 AM

  25. Agreed 8:44 am.
    For all the talk of the success of TNR the data shows that it’s NOT working.
    The TNR supporters had their chance. Now the trappers are going to implement the final solution.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.09
    9:04 AM

  26. “Untargeted TNR in a land mass the size of Hillsborough County does not work… it neither helps much nor harms much.” – Dr. Julie Levy, UF

    Dr. Levy is the country’s leading expert on TNR and even she says TNR does not work unless in very targeted, isolated area, which Seminole Heights is not.

    Hillsborough County is about to move forward with COUNTY SANCTIONED TNR which has gone largely unnoticed, unless you are a crazy cat person. If you have a problem with the county being involved in TNR (which will make TNR legal – it is currently against the law), write to the Board of County Commissioners. The Crazy Cat People have already spoken & have been heard. If this issue matters to you, write the BOCC before cats are really running the streets at the direction of Hillsborough County.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.09
    3:08 PM

  27. 12:04 am
    You’re acting like this is a one day event.
    They’ll set out a trap, when a cat is caught it’s given to animal control and the trap’s set out again.
    As for where. In the Greater Seminole Heights area. (I don’t think they’ll give you the addresses of the volunteers that have traps in their yards)

    Anonymous

    2013.02.09
    3:57 PM

  28. 3:57 My home is one that I have emailed for a trap. I would NEVER give the address as I can imagine the retaliation from the Cat Lady Posse! My wife and I have tried for years to get pregnant. Last month we found out she is finally pregnant. Her OB warned her about the dangers of cats to her pregnancy. We cannot take any chances. I hope you understand our concerns. Once the baby arrives may be different story but we are taking all precautions until then.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.09
    7:29 PM

  29. I hope your doctor also told your wife about the dangers of meat. Handling or eating raw or not properly cooked meat also spreads toxoplasmosis which is what pregnant women should be concerned about. If your wife is not gardening or cleaning litter boxes there is nothing she should worry about. You are killing and innocent pet unnecessarily.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.10
    11:34 AM

  30. Unless someone is taking responsibility for the care(complete care, not just a little food when you feel like it) and impact(ie pay for the damage it causes, clean up the mess it leave) of that animal it is NOT. A. PET!!!

    Anonymous

    2013.02.10
    3:55 PM

  31. Yeah, it may not be A PET but it is an innocent animal regardless of your heartless attitude. Who pays for the damages caused by racoons? I still wouldn’t kill them.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.10
    8:29 PM

  32. Raccoons are supposed to run wild….domestic cats ARE NOT! Why can’t you people get this concept??? It’s fairly simple, cats are domestic animals not meant to roam wild – simple as that! But…you still won’t get it!

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    1:24 PM

  33. If it’s diseased, a fighter attacking true pets, damages landscaping, kills less destructive wildlife, leaves unpleasant odors due to it’s feces and urine, or promotes the suffering of an allergic person, it is not an innocent animal. Any destructive creature should be relocate or destroyed. If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at those who abdicated their responsibility and turned out these former pets. Many of these cats are a true problem, and unfortunately TNR doesn’t solve the problem. Even temporary relief is better than none, which TNR doesn’t provide with problem animals. Reality isn’t always happy rainbows and frolicking unicorns.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    1:28 PM

  34. When a cats neutered does it’s urine still have an odor?

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    5:40 PM

  35. LoL ..cat – a domestic_?…yeah right..
    why do you think there are so many cartoons/perceptions about cats… and why they are not humble or obedient ..like dogs?

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    5:55 PM

  36. So…now cats are not a domestic animal?! Wow, you “feral/outside cat people” never cease to amaze with this stuff. I think I have found the problem, cats have learned how to outsmart a portion of our society and now use those people to protect their ability to be a menace to those who remain smarter than cats.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    6:09 PM

  37. You guys are making it sound like cats are sooo destructive, a MENACE to society! They kill less destructive wildlife, like nothing else does. Even Bluejays kill other birds. They destroy landscape? I have NEVER seen a cat destroy landscape, that is an insane/made-up story. All animals are to run wild. In England it is expected that you let your cat out. They think that in America we are the crazy ones for insisting on keeping cats in…imagine that! Call me crazy cat person, but I think you guys are the crazy ones.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    6:58 PM

  38. Cats find potted foliage very attractive as a litter box replacement, and after enough repeated application of waste can and will kill those plants. Just because you choose to remain ignorant, doesn’t make reality any different for the rest of use. Feral cats are not wildlife, they are an invasive species that negatively affect the ecosystems where they’re found, so while, yes, other species do the whole circle of life thing, feral cats are top-tier predators in an environment that has not yet adapted to their presence.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    7:47 PM

  39. …take a chill 6:09p..and a deep breath
    .. exhale..and once.again..
    Just injecting some light hearted humor -most assuredly -not to be taken literally!
    -didn’t notice the ‘LoL’? .. the animosity and entrenchment was getting very devisive… Less about education and awareness but more about attacking ..

    btw ..youtube 10 ways to give a cat a pill.
    Svrl versions get emailed or FB’d but don’t think I’ve ever seen one about dogs.

    ..and TNR does work.. we’ve enforced it on our block for almost 10yrs… wish other blocks would participate

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    8:31 PM

  40. TNR only works for those neighbors who don’t mind the cats and associated problems.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    9:24 PM

  41. Yeah, show me the scientific research that proves that cats are “an invasive species that negatively affect the ecosystems where they’re found.” Sounds to me like you just made that one up to justify your ignorance. And the potted foliage nonsense, I have potted plants and the cats in my area of the neighborhood don’t bother with them at all. Sounds like your just are lacking a green thumb. My plants look quite nice!

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    9:42 PM

  42. 9:42 <======= Textbook cat person. Hundreds of pages of scientific evidence against TNR vs. "works on my block". oh well, no reasoning with them. They remain blind to science, logic, reasoning, and respect for neighbors.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    9:54 PM

  43. “Hundreds of pages of scientific evidence” Where??? You say I am blind to science but fail to show me the evidence. I can read research papers rather well so tell me what papers are you talking about.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    10:03 PM

  44. Yahh, show us the evidence?

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    10:18 PM

  45. My neighbor told me to place bowls of antifreeze around the areas where the cats tend to urinate or cause problems He said the cats will drink the antifreeze and dislike the taste and leave the area. I figure at this point worth it to try anything versus trapping them. I placed 8 bowls of the green antifreeze today. (didn’t know they had multi colors) so guess they all work the same.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.11
    11:37 PM

  46. ??..Are you & your nghbr nuts 11:37p ??! ..or just a cruel sadistic that enjoys a tortuous poisoning…
    ..a wannabe serial killer?….
    or just someone with extremely poor taste in humor??
    Learn to use Google if you are so gullible .. especially before enacting such a vile proposition.

    %%% Blue _please delete that post before some dimwit seriuosly thinks its a viable/humane option. IT’S NOT. …. It’s wicked and Criminal.!

    Not a fan of the ferals but will co-exist as long as the littering stops.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.12
    1:11 AM

  47. “the cats will drink the antifreeze and dislike the taste and leave the area.”
    I don’t know about cats, but when it comes to dogs they love the taste, drink it and die.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.12
    6:32 AM

  48. 10:03, use Google, it’s easy. A 2-second search resulted in this article in the first 3 or 4 returns. Granted, a primary focus of this paper was the extreme impact ferals have on semi-closed island ecosystems, there is still more general reference. Feel free to do a little more of your own research if you’re truly interested in the truth instead of dogma.

    www . issg . org/database/species/ecology.asp?si=24

    “The most obvious impact of feral cats is the predatory impact they exert on native prey populations; this has resulted in the probable local or regional decline or extinction of many species (Dickman 1996).”

    “This species has been nominated as among 100 of the “World’s Worst” invaders”

    Anonymous

    2013.02.12
    7:56 AM

  49. Anonymous 2013.02.11, 6:58 pm It sounds like you’d be happier living in England. Need help packing?

    Anonymous

    2013.02.12
    8:17 AM

  50. Cat we all just get a long?

    Anonymous

    2013.02.12
    9:57 AM

  51. I am in happy cat-friendly Seminole Heights so no need to move to England! You on the other hand, should move to a deed restricted community..you may be happier there

    Anonymous

    2013.02.12
    6:58 PM

  52. Actually city ordinances are quite adequate in this regard and on the side of those attempting to address the problem. Traps are relatively cheap at Harbor Freight, and loaner traps are also available for little to no cost. Keep your kitties legal and there will be no issue whatsoever.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.12
    7:54 PM

  53. That is NOT a scientific research article but just a bad paper with all sorts of holes and blanket statements obviously skewed in one direction. Totally useless. It is also about feral cats and what the person before was claiming is that there are “hundreds of pages of scientific evidence” against TNR, with no proof or link to this supposed “scientific evidence.” It sounds to me like what is moving to the neighborhood are mean spirited, heartless people which is a far worse problem.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.12
    10:34 PM

  54. As expected, no evidence will sway your dogmatic ideology. None is so blind as those who choose not to see. Have a nice day.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.13
    7:41 AM

  55. 10:43 – Why should someone waste time providing a bunch of links. Do a Google search for scientific journal articles and position statements (with facts) concerning TNR and feral cat populations. Those who want to learn and analyze the issue objectively would have already done their research before posting. Those who will not be swayed no matter what evidence is presented continue to comment and want to be spoon-fed information. Why waste time providing information that the people who are the problem will dismiss without regard. Follow the law, keep your cat legal, and let those who want to trap on their property do as they have a right to do. And no….for the vast majority of SH residents I do not believe that cat urine and other associated issues were a deciding factor to move here. It just so happens a segment of SH feels entitled to disregard City ordinances because they think they have a right to and believe they are the SH originals! Get with it….it’s the new residents that will drive the prosperity of SH along with the “real originals” who have a vision of a prosperous SH.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.13
    9:08 AM

  56. 10:34, if you had any objective interest in researching and truth seeking you’d have noticed that article referenced (Dickman, 1996), a more formal report on the topic covering mainland Australia, and its coastal islands. There is no taxonomic difference between a family pet and a feral Felis catus that has spent its entire life in the wild. There is also no definitive delineation between what you consider a stray and a feral. There may be some validity to the point that a stray that is regularly fed might be less destructive than a feral that must hunt for each meal, but a single animal may very well bounce back and forth along that spectrum of conditions during its lifespan. However, some level of predation is instinctual behavior for cats, regardless of their need for food.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.13
    2:28 PM

  57. One article based on research in Australia on ferals has nothing to do with TNR which again, since you apparently cannot read, is what people here keep tossing about. If you make blanket statements such as “TNR doesn’t work, the research shows that!” then I will call you on it and ask “where are you getting this information from?”. If you make such statements, then back them up with information of where you get it from.

    By the way, I have lived in other areas in Tampa and it is the same way…cats walk about and nobody cares! I have lived in SH for close to 20 years and nothing has changed in the cat regard. My neighbor has been in her home since the 1940’s and she loves cats too. You go ahead and continue with your own version of DOGMA, your blatant IGNORANCE and flat out CRUELTY…it’s your karma.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.13
    7:39 PM

  58. And speaking of cruelty who the hell is going about putting bowls of antifreeze to poison whatever gets to drink it? Shame on you! Are these the “new residents that will drive the prosperity of SH”??? What a disgrace!

    Anonymous

    2013.02.13
    7:51 PM

  59. Maybe take a breath, and realize that was in reference to the request, “Yeah, show me the scientific research that proves that cats are “an invasive species that negatively affect the ecosystems where they’re found.”

    But now that we’ve cleared that up, care to explain how TNR removes the problem that the living cats create for those who are not catshit crazy? You reduce(not eliminate) the breeding, which possibly, if you hope enough, and maybe if you catch enough of them, and keep your fingers crossed so no one else turns out or drops off any more unaltered cats, just maybe lowers the population after some number of years, leaving the same void for other strays that you claim will fill if the ferals are simply trapped and removed.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.13
    8:05 PM

  60. Longcore, T., C. Rich, and L. M. Sullivan. 2009.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.13
    8:20 PM

  61. Castillo, D., and A. L. Clarke. 2003.

    Barrows, P. L. 2004.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.13
    8:24 PM

  62. This is getting really boring. Just get on with life for pete’s sake!

    Anonymous

    2013.02.15
    6:42 PM

  63. Does antifreeze deter the cats. i have never heard of this? After the destruction the strays have caused on my front porch I am willing to try anything. Will be swinging by Discount Auto tomorrow.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.15
    7:34 PM

  64. 7:34 pm
    Quit trolling.
    0/10

    Anonymous

    2013.02.16
    6:50 AM

  65. Do the world a favor 7:34. Don’t have kids.

    Anonymous

    2013.02.17
    11:55 AM

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