Seminole Heights Week in review
So much stuff happening in Seminole Heights.
Cats: Neighbors in SE Seminole Heights are discussing the increasing cat population. While many are complaining of risk, cleanliness and diseases, the opposing side is encouraging Trap, neuter and release. Do you have an idea to solve the cycle?
Guns in Hillsborough High: Student set off fireworks Thursday at Hillsborough High. Initially reported as gun shots, the school was placed on lock down until investigated and confirmed. What punishment would be appropriate for the young lady guilty of causing this mayhem?
Updated Website: Be sure to stop by the South Seminole Heights Website. The newer site is warm and inviting. http://www.sshca.org/
Until Monday, enjoy the warming weather.






117 Comments:
Neuter and release. Cats are great pest control.
The girl should get a warning; unless she has had warnings before. She is a kid.
David
2013.01.269:48 am
the timestamp on this website is waay off. it is 9:08…
David
2013.01.269:49 am
Please note,that we have formed a group Heights-wide that will be combing Seminole Heights to help round up some of the feral cats. Any cat without the notched ear will be trapped and taken to SPCA. We currently have 27 volunteers that will begin trapping. So far, our areas will cover 12th street to highway from MLK to Hillsborough. Nebraska to the Freeway from Hillsborough to Sligh. The Freeway to Central From MLK to Sligh. These area were determined most critical due to the large number of intact feral cats. If you have an outdoor cat, please be sure that the cat has tags or ears notched. All others will be trapped and removed. If you have other areas you would like considered please email information to cattrap2013 at ymail.com
Anonymous
2013.01.2610:02 am
Can we sign up to help trap and transport? We are overrun with cats and kittens. The kittens we have trapped, tamed and found homes but the big cats keep reproducing. Done paying to fix and release. By the time they learn to spray it is usually too late to break the habit.
Anonymous
2013.01.2610:06 am
SPCA ? Did you mean HSTB for fixing and returning them with an ear notch?
Do you scan each cat trapped for a microchip? Not all cats carry collars, mine lose them but they are all microchipped.
Please clarify what exactly you are doing with the trapped cats. Are you staying away from areas with registered colonies on the Hillsborough County Feral Cat database that are being conntrolled and cared for?
Anonymous
2013.01.261:49 pm
We will be working with the ASPCA and their partners which may include the HSTB and Hillsborough County Animal Shelter. If the cats are not currently cared for, ear notched or properly tagged, they will be surrendered to the shelter. The goal of this effort is not to fix and release but rather help eliminate a problem that has continued to spiral out of control due to irresponsible pet owners and caregivers.
Anonymous
2013.01.262:25 pm
I agree that the cat population is a problem. On our street we have cats and free roaming chickens. I can’t help trap but would be willing to donate money to help get the traps. I think this is effort putting resources to good use.
Anonymous
2013.01.265:35 pm
Its the great Seminole Heights Pussy Round-up!
Anonymous
2013.01.2611:29 pm
how do we make sure our cats are not trapped and taken away?
Anonymous
2013.01.276:03 am
Put the damn things inside like a responsible pet owner! It is against city code to allow your pets to run wild. Could you imagine if every neighbor let there dogs run wild? There is no difference with your cat. It is harmful to the pet. It can be harmful to humans. Your irresponsibility should not become the responsibility of your neighbors to take care of. I can’t tell you how much money I have spent on replacing plants, outdoor furniture, purchasing deterrents and more. Every time I try to garden it is disgusting to have to smell all the urine on the plants. It is beyond gross. I applaud those heading this effort up.
Anonymous
2013.01.276:42 am
6:42 am
I HAD a fixed male cat.
I only saw it when it’s food bowl was empty or it was cold and wanted to get warm.
It wasn’t an indoor curl up in your lap cat.
What happened to it? I don’t know, but I didn’t go looking for it.
I hope it adopted someone else and I don’t intend to get another one.
Anonymous
2013.01.2710:02 am
So 2:25, call it what it is, it’s a trap and kill.
Folks, you all know this is the uncompassionate, expensive and ineffective way to go. Just plan on doing this year round, the expense will never go away. Or you can educate yourselves at examiner.com/article/study-says-feral-cat-trap-neuter-return-can-save-communities-money
Anonymous
2013.01.271:58 pm
Allow consumption of cats and dogs.
We have enough ethnic diversity in this town that some of them would have no cultural problem eating dogs and cats.
Stray/feral problem is over.
Would also cause pet owners to be FAR more responsible in keeping their pets confined to their yards.
Anonymous
2013.01.273:56 pm
158, your posted is slighted by a pro feral website. Do some unbiased research and see how many birds are killed annually. How much feral cost. How many dollars are spent to fix damage caused by ferals. Research the diseases spread by feels from cat to cat, and cat to human. While I hate to see nimal euthanized, it is more humane than a life of abuse and starvation and fights with no vet care.
Anonymous
2013.01.275:03 pm
Ahhh…..the great cat debate AGAIN. Comes around every few months in SESH. No win battle, too many have outdoor cats they think never leave their yards and too many believe the TNR propaganda, which is not based on science but rather peoples’ desire to have cats running around everywhere. They all flip out when a dog gets loose and kills a cat, but could care less their cats kill tons of birds and snakes.
Anonymous
2013.01.278:41 pm
” Feral cats feed extensively on songbirds, game birds, mice and other rodents, rabbits, and other wildlife. In doing so, they lower the carrying capacity of an area for native predators such as foxes, raccoons, coyotes, bobcats, weasels, and other animals that compete for the same food base.
Where documented, their impact on wildlife populations in suburban and rural areas—directly by predation and indirectly by competition for food— appears enormous. A study under way at the University of Wisconsin (Coleman and Temple 1989) may provide some indication of the extent of their impact in the United States as compared to that in the United Kingdom, where Britain’s five million house cats may take an annual toll of some 70 million animals and birds (Churcher and Lawton 1987). Feral cats occasionally kill poultry and injure house cats.
Feral cats serve as a reservoir for human and wildlife diseases, including cat scratch fever, distemper, histoplasmosis, leptospirosis, mumps, plague, rabies, ringworm, salmonellosis, toxoplasmosis, tularemia, and various endo- and ectoparasites. ”
ttp://icwdm.org/handbook/carnivor/FeralHouseCat.asp
Anonymous
2013.01.279:14 pm
9:14- I don’t believe it. Haven’t seen any of that in YouTube cat videos. They’re sooooo cute.
Anonymous
2013.01.2710:08 pm
I emailed the group to see about starting focus along 12th street both north and south of Osborne. Both are over run with ferals. Many areas you can’t even walk through due to the scent from the spraying.
Anonymous
2013.01.2711:02 pm
Cats- crunch all you want, they’ll make more.
Anonymous
2013.01.2810:26 am
I wish there were a similar way to combat the feral human population.
Anonymous
2013.01.2812:05 pm
Hold the home owners responsible and see how fast it cleans up. There is no such thing as a homeowner adopting a feral colony. The colony affects all of the surrounding neighbors.
Anonymous
2013.01.281:40 pm
1205, you want to eat your neighbors?
Anonymous
2013.01.281:42 pm
In this neighborhood? Only if you like bitter, raw, and gristly.
Anonymous
2013.01.282:50 pm
12:05 pm
Would you please tell us what you mean by “the feral human population.”?
Anonymous
2013.01.284:08 pm
I think that “feral human population” refers to the sketchy homeless people that live in the area. There are some especially sketched-out homeless guys that hangout at the Circle K at Florida and Hillsborough all the time.
Also, I hope that the SPCA won’t try to take away the cute kitties that live at the house next to Nursery Experience, near Hanna and Central. Those are outside cats that hang out in their yard all time, but they aren’t a bother to anyone. I’ve seen them grow up from kittens in the past year: cute!
Anonymous
2013.01.297:03 am
How about anyone that accepts the benefits of living in a civilized society without contributing or conforming to the basic norms of that society. If someone wants to be a wilding, they should go live in the wild.
Anonymous
2013.01.298:43 am
10 years ago my cat died and I walked outside and looked at all the cats/kittens running on my street. In Cassie’s name I decided to help all these animals. TNVR does work. Over the years I have fixed,put in a microchip, given shots and care to thousands. The ones that were adoptable I found homes for. Only one of my neighbors ever thanked me. It is a thankless job to be in animal rescue. It is not these animals fault. It is the jerks that want to see babies and then they can not find homes for them all. Then put them out to multiply. It is simply untrue that feral cats are killers or any cat for that matter. I have had rabbits and hamsters in the past that my cats have not touched. I have about 10 cats out of my fence right now with chickens in my neighbors yard and they have not touched one of them. My fence I have to replace and re-cat proof it. Right now with a job I work full time and my Mom having lung cancer I have not had a chance to start that project. You cowards that are taking these animals to SPCA are giving them a death sentence and do not think otherwise. I am sure these people are not checking for microchips or taking them to animal services where they do check because at animal services it costs a fee to drop them off. These cowards are dropping the Humane Society of Tampa Bay as being involved. I can assure you they are not but, most likely will be soon. I have informed them of what is going on . They are on the side of TNVR not trap and carry off. Also, a lot of cats will not keep collars on. That is why I microchip every animal whether it gets an ear clip or I think it can be adopted. I think this anonymous group should be ashamed of themselves. In stead of being destructive try volunteering @ animal services or the humane society. You people obviously have too much time on your hands. Lisa @ Labor Of Love Animal Rescue,Inc. At least I have the balls to say who I am.
Lisa Van Lew
2013.01.311:16 pm
“A new report by the Smithsonian Conservation Biology Institute and the United States Fish and Wildlife Service presents a staggering picture of the damage cats can do — some 2.4 billion birds and 12.3 billion mammals killed a year as a median range. The prey are not just noxious rodents like rats, but small native mammals of every description. In fact, cats kill more wild creatures in the United States than any other human-linked cause — including automobiles, pesticides and buildings that migratory birds collide into. ”
ttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/31/opinion/cats-soft-and-deadly.html
Anonymous
2013.01.315:11 pm
Even better article: “That Cuddly Kitty Is Deadlier Than You Think” ttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/science/that-cuddly-kitty-of-yours-is-a-killer.html
“Yet the new study estimates that free-roaming pets account for only about 29 percent of the birds and 11 percent of the mammals killed by domestic cats each year, and the real problem arises over how to manage the 80 million or so stray or feral cats that commit the bulk of the wildlife slaughter.”
80 million
Anonymous
2013.01.315:18 pm
Lisa – Thanks for your animal rescue efforts. However, the overwhelming scientific information does show that cats kill. Mainly at night when people are not watching – they are nocturnal by nature. Many people say that their cat doesn’t kill, but those cats are the minority. I agree it is not the cats’ (or dogs’ for that matter) fault, but we cannot realistically adopt out all the stray cats nor can our native wildlife endure feral cat colonies. Unfortunately, some cats need to be euthanized – sorry – but that is the only solution. I know many refuse to believe that and I understand why. But reality hurts and this will be the only solution until we can change the behaviors of humans, which we all know is difficult and takes generations. We need to adopt out those we can, educate the public about the problems of releasing strays, and establish effective euthanasia programs under strict oversight so that peoples’ lost pets are not killed. We also need stricter penalties and enforcement for those who have outside cats that they allow to roam against City codes.
Anonymous
2013.01.315:54 pm
Geez, I was wondering why the blogger hadn’t posted any cat-hate articles lately and look! Such great timing! If you don’t like cats, don’t purchase a home in Seminole Heights, period.
Anonymous
2013.01.318:54 pm
Lisa, I applaud your efforts. You are one of the responsible owners. Therefore this is not directed to you. I am a father of two. We have two dogs in the home and no cats. My youngest son has health issues and was told to stay clear of cats due to health issues. Therefore we do not have one. However when I go in my yard and and smell cats it sends a chill up my spine. I am terrified for my child to play in his own backyard. Why should my child risk his life because people can’t care for their pets. Cats do not belong outside running the streets. I am sorry but I tend to side with the program. Until the city gets tough and starts citing the owners feeding them this will continue. Human life is more valuable.
Anonymous
2013.02.017:27 pm
bingo! My sentiments, exactly.
“[Feral cat lovers] all flip out when a dog gets loose and kills a cat, but could care less their cats kill tons of birds and snakes.”
The (final!) solution to feral cats: feral coyotes! Let Nature take its course….
NotAnonymous Sam
2013.02.018:02 pm
Would those of you behind this ill-conceived, ill-informed plan – who obviously know nothing about the proper way to control cat overpopulation – have the cojones to state your name rather than hiding behind “anonymity.” I would like to know who the cat enemies are. It’s extremely sad and disappointing to see this kind of attitude among the people of Seminole Heights, who I mistakenly thought to be educated, understanding and compassionate. Instead, I guess you’ve taken it upon yourselves to be the decision makers as to what cats live and die.
cleo
2013.02.018:04 pm
I like the letting them be caught for human consumption idea. I bet they don’t have colonies of feral cats in Laos or Cambodia.
Anonymous
2013.02.019:02 pm
REF the comment timestamped “Anonymous
2013.01.26, 10:02 am”, which states you have 27 volunteers who will be trapping the free-roaming cats for removal to be taken to SPCA: I wonder how many of those 27 people understand you will actually be taking these cats to Animal Services (HCAS), where they will be KILLED?!?
Telling people the cats of Seminole Heights are going to the SPCA is downright misleading bc most residents will surely assume animals taken to the SPCA will be placed up for adoption.
Make no mistake…. Hillsborough County Animal Services (HCAS) and the SPCA are two VERY different places.
While TNVR is not perfect, it IS the best solution for dealing with an overpopulation of feral cats — AND keeping the rat/mice population under control. This method has been proved time and time again, all across the nation.
I am confident that the majority of the people who say TNVR doesn’t work are those who simply hate the species and would assume to see them all dead, rather than educate themselves and do what’s truly best for the cats, birds, AND the community.
For every article you post about how cats kill birds, I can show you 10 more that show how HUMANS (and habitat destruction) are the real enemy to birds, not cats.
If you genuinely care about the welfare of birds, you should instead be fighting construction/development — and supporting efforts to protect/conserve wooded, undeveloped areas. But somehow I doubt “the haters” posting here will bother themselves with doing something that will effectively help birds bc it seems their focus is all about ending life, instead of protecting it. Birds are simply an excuse to justify their resentment for felines.
I am a taxpayer in Hillsborough County and do not appreciate your plans to use my money to kill healthy cats at our county’s shelter, instead of reaching out for FREE and HUMANE help from caretakers, via TNVR at one of our local low-cost spay/neuter clinics.
Shame on any of you who assist in this mass killing.
Tampa Resident
2013.02.0110:39 pm
to the person who posted that there is no scientific proof that TNR works, first of all they have been trapping and killing for many years, and you still have a feral cat problem, so that doesn’t work. And yes there have been some very extensive studies done on TNR by experts in the field and it does work. You can’t clean up a problem in a few years that has been building for at least 50 years. But you can start to put a dent in the reproduction process. Female cats can have up to 5 kittens. 27 people can not catch enough cats to stop all the breeding, and every cat that is missed will have that 2 to 5 kittens, do the math. I know that all people don’t like cats, and you have every right to that feeling, but remember the cats are the innocent victims here, they didn’t ask to be tossed out in the streets, so be responsible humans and TNR. And those that are volunteering, please be sure these cats aren’t being taken to Animal Services to be killed and in fact are going to be fixed and returned. People don’t have a problem with all the rats, squirrels, raccoons and opossum’s that live and pass thru their yards, why are cats always such a target for the hate mongers? I don’t understand, and cats are no more dangerous to humans then anything else that lives out there, and in some cases they are less dangerous.
Anonymous
2013.02.0111:38 pm
If T-N-R, does not work, then why do we have such large metropolitan cities like San Fransisco using them?
http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=1013
http://www.humanityforcats.com/tnr.html
Rounding up the feral cats &’taking them away is not going to solve anything. It’s just going to leave a void for another feral cat to move in & is an endless cycle. If you understand cats, then you know that they are very territorial. If you don’t do anything to stop the reproduction, taking them away is just a very temporary solution.
Stacy
2013.02.0210:13 am
I’m thinking about starting a “trap and euthanize your stupid, heartless neighbors” program. Any volunteers?
Concerned
2013.02.024:22 pm
I find it very interesting that people can anonymously post comments of killing & off- hand remarks of illegal activities about eating cats & dogs, and my earlier comment offering a different point of view supporting TNR and why, never gets posted. Who are the people running this blog? Why not posts everyone’s comments & opinions. I am led to believe by my post not being shown, there are many more people, like myself, living in Seminole Heights that are against this. I know of at least one other comment that has not been allowed to publish. Seems a little cowardly to me.
Stacy
2013.02.039:36 am
I am not ashamed to give my name. I am a homeowner here on Curtis St and for the past 2 years my husband and kids and I have watched many cats wander the neighborhood. Some of them TNR cats and some of them feral. They pee, poop, and spray all over the neighborhood. Not to mention walking all over the cars leaving tracks.
I have seen many of them overrun with fleas, starving, injured fighting with each other…and even dying underneath my neighbors homes.
Would we let other pets roam the neighborhood with this kind of behavior…absolutely not! It has become acceptable behavior because are so concerned about cruelty in euthanizing them! Cruelty? Really! Seems to me that allowing them to stay on the streets is moore cruel that humane euthanizing! C’mon people…..enough is enough! Too many cats!!!
Vicki
2013.02.033:37 pm
Anonymous 1/26 @ 10:02 who originally posted this cat trap info; who is your group? Who are you? You state you’re Heights-wide? Are you working with the Human Society on this project? Is what you’re doing legal? Is the City involved? How about coming out and telling everyone just who you are and those that are working with you? Just exactly when is this cat round-up going to occur, got dates? As a responsible pet owner of one cat that is an in and outdoor spaded cat living in S.H., I want more details. Do tell.
Anonymous
2013.02.033:39 pm
Please do not come, unwanted, to our street… N Ola Avenue, a dead end street north of Sligh Avenue. to remove cats that are not your responsibility or prerogative.. My neighbors and I will take care of our own street. If we find you abducting/stealing our or my neighbors’ private property we will press charges and file suit. Thanks, but no thanks!
Wendy
2013.02.033:46 pm
I disagree with these “cat trapping” tactics. My opinion is, you want to set up traps on YOUR OWN property, well that is absolutely your right to do so. But once you go stepping on others’ property (in this case with respect to trapping cats that you “unofficially” deem to be feral) without the express consent of that particular property owner, your are — oh what is the word for it? Oh yeah — TRESPASSING. just my opinion. i have no outdoor cats …
DesignGirl
2013.02.0412:11 am
I like it when a topic explodes like this on the blog! Such interesting, divisive comments. Why can’t we get such passion about dogs pooping on the sidewalks and lawns and owners not picking up after them?
Anonymous
2013.02.049:13 am
Vicki: You present a very valid argument, one of many valid arguments against outdoor cats (indoor/outdoor is not any better unless confined outside), strays, and “managed feral cats”. The problem is, these arguments are backed by reason, common sense, and scientific studies – these “cat-loving people” do not argue based on facts, reason, common sense, or scientific proof. How they can claim euthanasia is more cruel that starving, injured cats I do not know. They claim they kills rats, rats whose population they feed by leaving cat food out. When in actuality they kill native snakes who do control rats. They actually believe their cats do not roam, but they do roam all night long as they are nocturnal and we humans sleep at night. Even PETA (who I am not typically a fan of) recommends that euthanasia is often the most humane course of action for feral cats. Unfortunately, this is one of those issues where peoples’ emotions and “personal facts” do not allow them to reasonably deal with the problem and I do not believe you will ever convince them otherwise – even with reason and REAL facts.
Anonymous
2013.02.049:20 am
9:13 – You also bring up a valid issue. I believe the “not picking up after dogs” issue is rooted in peoples’ laziness and general disrespect for others. I have seen people from all walks of life just walk away after the dog deficates on someones lawn/sidewalk. It’s not their property why should they care? Many leave the feces all over their own lawns, why would they care about anyone else’s property. Same reason people litter, they lack respect for others!
Anonymous
2013.02.049:26 am
What happens when the cat huggers cross paths with the urban chicken huggers? Stay tuned for the next episode of Misguiding Blight…
Anonymous
2013.02.049:29 am
Coyotes may offer our best solution for feral cat control. As their population increases in an area, the feral cat population will likely decrease. This will be more likely in suburban and rural areas, but could occur to a lessor degree in urban areas.
Anonymous
2013.02.0410:21 am
The northeast corner of Seminole Heights (north of Sligh/East of 15th) has an unofficial catch, spay, vacinnate, release and feed cooperation among neighbors for over 10 years and it is working quite well but it did take time and commitment to work. As soon as an intact feral migrates into our area, it is obvious there is a new comer and we deal with responsibly. We have had no new kittens in the area in 5 years. Many of them still have their ears in tact but have markers on their bellies to alert a vet. We have used the services of ACT very successfully. The very feral cats are fed enough collaborately by neighbors that the wildlife impact is minimal and the chickens, possum, raccoon population are thriving. The rodent population is minimal as well. We are happy with our results and don’t need this new group’s “help”. It takes long term commitment to be successful so if you are planning to commit to this effort for many years, then you will find your feral cat population drop. Please don’t come here and mess with something that has worked well for our area. Thank you. Kimberly Overman
Kimberly
2013.02.0411:36 am
Vicki, what gives you the authority to determine what cat is deemed feral for removal? What gives you and your group the right to do this throughout the area?
Do you have the backing of the Human Society or the City? What will you do to compensate a licensed pet owner if you take a cat in error?
My cat can’t keep a collar on her, she is spaded, licensed but not chipped nor has ear notch. If any of you steal my cat (and it’s stealing) and I have to take off time from work to retrieve my lawful pet, you will personally compensate me for my time, trouble, and any fee if there is one.
You cat-trapping people need to be very careful. Let’s hear what your precautions are, compensation for mistakes, and what determines your authority to be experts in proceeding with this project.
Anonymous
2013.02.0411:42 am
Over time my dog has done a good job keeping the cats out of yard. But when we first moved in the pee, poop, and spray was horrible on our property. If there was still a problem I’d be trapping these cats and doing whatever it would take to keep them out of my yard. If you don’t want something to happen to your cats, figure it out. Because when it comes cats on other peoples property no have no defense.
John
2013.02.0412:00 pm
11:42 – Not sure you should assume Vicki is part of this “group” simply because she posted her sentiments here. And John is correct; if your outside cat strays into someone’s yard they have every right to take it to the pound, read up on City ordinances. I believe the first course of action would be to discuss with offending neighbor, but my second course would be to take it to the pound. If I had an outside dog who routinely walked up on your porch and left a smelly pile, would that be okay? If we caught the loose, stray dogs in the neighborhood and fixed them, fed them, and returned them to roam the neighborhood – would that be okay? No – the cat people would flip out! If a stray dog kills a cat, it’s an evil animal that must be euthanized. If a stray cat kills 50 birds, it’s just doing what its instincts tell it to!
Anonymous
2013.02.042:31 pm
Trapping and euthanizing feral cats is just doing what some peeps’ instincts tell them to do…there’s no definitive or defensible right or wrong action here outside of what’s legal, and that’s why it’s so polarizing. That being said, there is some evidence that Toxoplasma gondii may in fact make cat peeps crazy.
Cleo
2013.02.042:45 pm
Absolutely Cleo. What’s legal with a group of vigilante neighbors taking this on themselves?
Anonymous
2013.02.043:35 pm
1/26 10:02 who first posted this cat trap program; if you aren’t Vicki then who the heck are you and your group? If you are announcing your intentions to round up neighborhood cats, how about letting everyone know what the dates are so those of us with pet cats can be prepared for your onslaught. Give us ALL the information behind your anonymous group, can you do that?
Anonymous
2013.02.047:23 pm
3:35 Unless there is a specific prohibition in statute or ordinance, then it is legal. A grey area might be the taking of an animal belonging to another on public property could arguably be a form of theft, but by law your animal shouldn’t be on public property.
In the City of Tampa, allowing your animal to roam at large in any public space or upon the lands of another is specifically prohibited in Sec 19-75 of the Code of Ordinances.
Tabby
2013.02.048:34 pm
What onslaught 7:23 pm?
I only way I see it can be done is if the traps are on the private property of the volunteers. It’s not like they’re going to drive around with guns shooting the cats from their car.
If you see a trap in an area like an alley you can take it and destroy it, so they probably won’t be putting them there.
Given enough volunteers and traps, they’ll win.
They can keep the traps in their yard longer than you can keep your cat in your house.
I think they make an invisible fence thing that gives the animal a shock from a collar when it tries to go out of a certain area.
You outdoor cat owners may need to invest in them.
Anonymous
2013.02.049:32 pm
WHY DON’T YOU ANIMAL HATERS CHECK WITH THE LAW. IT IS ILLEGAL TO TRAP ANIMALS AND MOVE THEM FROM YOUR OWN LOT. YOU CAN TRAP AN ANIMAL IN YOUR LOT BUT YOU CANNOT MOVE IT FROM YOUR LOT.
Anonymous
2013.02.0411:50 pm
..if you have a cat -Chip It! ..best option since tag, leash, or chip is mandated.
All mine are indoor-rescue kitties, spawns of the ferals, however, they do get out in a while when the door hangs open or the window screen gets pushed.
Good job NE & Kimberly!
Anonymous
2013.02.0512:09 am
11:50 pm
Trap it on your lot, call animal control, no problem.
Also, the people wanting to trap the feral cats aren’t necessarily animal haters, they’re just not feral cat lovers.
One last thing. The key on the left between the “Tab” and “Shift” is the “Caps Lock”. You must have accidentally left yours in the “on” position.
Anonymous
2013.02.055:44 am
11:50, please cite the statute or ordinance to which you refer. Claiming such on the Internet, even if you do so in all caps doesn’t make it true.
Anonymous
2013.02.057:06 am
BEST CONTACT HUMANE SOCIETY’S LEGAL COUNSEL, THEIR WEB PAGE IS ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO BREAK THE LAW!!! if Anonymous @ 11:50 is to be believed.
“5. Monday morning, TAKE THE CATS(emphasis added) to the Humane Society of Tampa Bay Spay/Neuter Clinic located at
3607 N Armenia Ave in Tampa, FL. Check in between 7:00am – 10:00am. Feral cats only (not free
roaming cats) and they must be in their own trap (one cat per trap).”
Anonymous
2013.02.059:02 am
If these cats are ‘removed’ more will just move in. Read the comments from people who talk about how trap neuter return works for them. No new kittens in 5 years! If the cats’ are spayed and neutered, surprise, there won’t be any more kittens. If you people want to ’solve’ this, use all those volunteers to do trap neuter return. Not just round up the cats to have somebody else kill them for you.
Glen
2013.02.0511:12 am
TNVR may be ok for those who don’t mind the other problems with having a colony of ferals living nearby…no new kittens, but plenty of smell, dead wildlife, and the noise of catfights. It’s not as if there’s some magic cat fairy instantly filling every available niche with the beasts, so while there are plenty to go around, removing them does buy some relief from the associated problems with these critter colonies.
Mia Yao
2013.02.0511:38 am
TNVR works for those who don’t mind the other problems with having a colony of ferals living nearby…no new kittens, but plenty of smell, dead wildlife, and the noise of cats fighting. It’s not as if there’s some magic cat fairy instantly filling every available niche with the beasts, so while there are plenty to go around, removing them does buy some relief from the associated problems with these critter colonies.
Anonymouse
2013.02.0511:40 am
TNVR works for those who don’t mind the other problems with having a colony of ferals living nearby…no new kittens, but plenty of smell, dead wildlife, and the noise of cat fights. It’s not as if there’s some magic cat fairy instantly filling every available niche with the beasts, so while there are plenty to go around, removing them does buy some relief from the associated problems with these critter colonies.
Anonymous
2013.02.0511:40 am
TNVR works for those who don’t mind the other problems with having a colony of ferals living nearby. Maybe no new kittens, but plenty of smell, dead wildlife, and the noise of cat fights. It’s not as if there’s some magic cat fairy instantly filling every available niche with the beasts, so while there are plenty to go around, removing them does buy some relief from the associated problems with these critter colonies.
Anonymous
2013.02.0511:41 am
We have been adopted by a beautiful stray cat. We have had her neutered and her shots are up to date.She has a micro-chip, but her ear has not been clipped as we call that mutilation. She has been invited to come into our home, but she is not interested in being an inside cat. We feed her and love her,and in exchange she stays, primarily, on our property. We also keep a bowl of cat food on the front porch for any hungry animal…we have seen opossums, birds and cats partake of the feast! If anyone steps foot on our property to trap any cat to be maimed or killed, we will consider it a threat and will call law enforcement.
That said, we do support legitimate trap, neuter and release programs. These TRAINED volunteers, do an awesome job for our community. Anyone aware of an area where there are many ferral cats, can contact one of these programs. We don’t need cat vigilantes roaming our streets
cat caretaker
2013.02.0511:44 am
I think the issue is in the method chosen to take care of this. “Combing Seminole Heights” sounds like an invasion, not a solution. I personally feel a little attacked. My kitties are indoors, but what if one gets out on the day someone is “combing” my street. That doesn’t make me an irresponsible pet owner. That puts my kitty at risk of capture for no reason. My indoor kitties don’t wear collars, and we’ve chosen not to mutilate their ears. They should feel safe not just in my house, but in my yard. How will the team be trapping? Will they use food to lure the kitties to a trap, interesting food could lure even the most stationary yard kitty to a trap. This method isn’t ok. Will they be using nets? Is a kitty without a collar in my front yard at risk for being trapped?
Keep in mind many parts of Seminole Heights are small intimate communities where the public area, the streets, are narrow. Most people use the street as an extension of their yard. They park at the end of their walk, and people comfortable go for evening walks in the streets. We don’t have sidewalks because we don’t need them.
We live on a beautiful, yet narrow street. There is a fine line between an animal being in his own yard, and trespassing ever so slightly into public territory. To have a stranger come in and make a judgement call on our neighborhood’s animals isn’t ok, or fair to the people who live here.
Trapping in your own yard is your choice and privilege, but don’t go searching for animals in other peoples yards, or streets.
Anonymous
2013.02.0512:29 pm
Totally agree, 2/5 12:29. Sounds like they are going to roam the area and set traps whever they want. Not a good thing!
Anonymous
2013.02.0512:54 pm
Removing neighborhood/feral/community cats just leaves a space in the cat territory which will quickly be filled by more cats from another neighborhood. Nature abhors a vacuum. The better idea is to trap and neuter and return the cats to the same location so that they don’t continue to breed. We have so many rats in the area–you want to talk about nuisance! I hate to think of what would happen if we went without a good population of cats for a few months while we wait for cats from another neighborhood to move in.
I would encourage people to put collars on the neighborhood cats you have hanging out in your yard as well as your cat(s). Make sure they are spade/neutered. If we can take a little bit of responsibility for cats that aren’t ours, their lives will be better and our neighborhood will continue to benefit from their presence.
For those of you who hate cats, there are repellents on the market–this one in particular is easy and effective: http://www.amazon.com/Contech-CatStop-Ultrasonic-Outdoor-Deterrent/dp/B0001A9TE2.
CH
2013.02.054:54 pm
Has anyone actually announced when the mass slaughter is actually going to happen?
Anonymous
2013.02.055:31 pm
I understand that in some areas there may be a cat problem. So you go through neighbors yards and set up traps, really? What happens when you trap all these cats, then we start having a rat and mouse problem? You gonna come back and get all the rats out of the walls of peoples house? I hope so. My cats are spayed but no notched ear. Are all these cats being put down? How long would a person have to claim their cat if you trap them? Not much information on all this except gonna trap them and take them. Earlier posts have asked questions with no reply, we at least should have questions answered. Just concerned!
Cindi
2013.02.055:41 pm
No date & time that I’ve heard. Okay to state what this group’s intention is but no dates and times? What gives? You announce your project to trap cats and at the same time not tell the public when? What’s that about?
Anonymous
2013.02.057:36 pm
TNR folks – You continue to spew unsubstantiated claims that TNR advocates have been throwing around for years to protect their right to disrespect neighbors and the very animals they claim to protect by fostering colonies of injured, fighting, and disease carrying cats. Show me some scientific data showing TNR benefits, and no,Humane Society and SPCA data is not scientific. BTW: The rat claim is completely false, keeping clean property void of bowls of cat food goes much further to reducing rats. Fill the void? This is a good try and was based on population dynamics but grossly mis-applied to feral cat colonies. I know this will go in one eye and out the other, the feral cat people are blind to reason and factual evidence.
Anonymous
2013.02.059:34 pm
Isn’t it funny how it is “For those who don’t like cats go buy this product.” Really? Your irresponsibility now cost those of us that do not want cats or their problems.
How about those who want cats become responsible owners and stop pushing your problems on everyone else.
As for the “date” what difference does it make? If you are going to hide your kitties so they don’t get taken, that would show you have the wherewithal to do it every day. I applaud this effort and will offer my front and back yard to trap the unwanted uncared for cats. Hopefully they will catch baby kittens so that they might be able to have a shot at a good life by being rehab and tamed.
Talk about heartless, lets let them mutliply, scavenge for food, leave flea infested. How is that humane?
Anonymous
2013.02.059:39 pm
You lazy, ignorant people… How many years have we asked for your assistance to help with trapping and spaying these strays? And how many times have you turned a blind eye and watched Randi and Susan work tirelessly to do so? You were NEVER there to help join in collaborative solutions that THIS COMMUNITY proposed. Now you’ve grown tired of it? WELL TOO LATE. Your now “seemingly” heartfelt intentions are completely see-thru to us. Your lack of commitment and any sense of compassion are now exposed. You want a quick solution? Well here it is…move to South Tampa or New Tampa where you can live the kind of high-brow, problem-free lifestyle you want. Your Mama may have never actually said this to you, but you have no compassion or heart, and need to live amongst others who fit your wicked bill. WE don’t want your KIND here any more than you want helpless little kitties (who look forward to seeing you every day) pooping on things that you apparently value more than life. Shame on you, and please let us know if I can help you pack… I hear there’s a great Applebees on Bruce B Downs that I think you’ll absolutely adore
Anonymous
2013.02.061:09 am
For anyone that might be interested: in the 33610 area code you can get your cats fixed for free @ the Humane Society of Tampabay off Armenia Ave. as long as the grant is available. This also includes the borderline areas to that zip code within a few blocks. This includes the rabies vac and FVRCP. For ferals the day is Monday and animal must be in trap. For sweet cats in carriers just make an appt. and call 813-870-3304. You can ask that they clip your sweet cats ear to protect it and I always recommend getting the animal a microchip.
Lisa Van lew
2013.02.064:15 pm
Why is it that all these people that don’t like cats are anonymous?
Cindi
2013.02.065:42 pm
Rebecca, FU you self righteous B! First of all how long have you lived in the neighborhood? What have you done to improve. Oh that’s right you move in and we should all be so grateful. Why is it that people like you move in and assume we should all adapt to your way of life? Ever think about any one but yourself? Maybe you should be the stuckup self serving person that would thrive all BBdowns? Lets say we adopt your bitchy attitude. Your neighbor decides to adopt a raccoon colony. Do you fight, or sit back and deal with it. You could bet you would be fighting. If I recall correctly you at one point lived in SESH and created a stir over free roaming dogs. Maybe some liked that quirkiness. Have you ever considered that some people enjoy gardening and take pride in their property? Judging by your house I don’t think you understand that concept but roll with me. Why should they tolerate having stray cats that they never agreed to care for destroy their plants, destroy their hard earned money, soil their yards and cost them countless money. Or what about the the elderly neighbor with a weakened immune system. Will you care for their yard as they can’t risk getting sick? I own a cat. I am responsible I keep it indoors. There is no reason why cats should be running rampant unless if you are irresponsible. Can you imagine what would happened to the single mother if her brood of children ran in your yard. You would call Social Service in a NY minute. Sad that cats are getting more help than issues that really make a difference! But that’s how “you people” are!!!
Anonymous
2013.02.077:57 am
well said 757. I wondered who the heck this person thought they were. I find it almost humorous that there is no gray area in this debate. Cat lovers cram it down your throat whether you like it or not. None cat lovers at least are some what compromising saying you can own as many cats as you like just don’t force them on them. Seems reasonable.
Anonymous
2013.02.078:23 am
Cindi just because you use a fake name does not make it so.
Farrah Fawcett
2013.02.078:24 am
Rebecca??
Anonymous
2013.02.0710:32 am
This is absolutely ridiculous. The bottom line is that people who own cats need to take responsibility for them and KEEP THEM INDOORS. Then there’s nothing to worry about with the cat round-up, which I think is a great idea. These outdoor cats, feral or domestic, are destroying other people’s properties. I agree with 7:57 100%. This shouldn’t be a battle between “animallovers and non-animal lovers”–I am most definitely an animal lover, but I have HAD it with these cats. I applaud the efforts of those organizing the round-up.
Anonymous
2013.02.0711:29 am
Loving, free range cats is something society benefits from and everyone should pay for. If you don’t like them, move into a deed-restricted community. I don’t want the responsibility for caring for a pet myself full time, so it’s very nice to have the strays around that I can get my fix when I need it and not think about it when I don’t.
Anonymous
2013.02.0711:39 am
I might as well own a cat for all the cleaning up after them I have to do. And I’m sick of people’s response of “well, you should just move.” How old are we, 10?
Anonymous
2013.02.0711:55 am
Think of the bunnies! What will happen to the poor bunnies?
Anonymous
2013.02.0712:01 pm
11:55 am, that’s the beauty of it, you don’t have to own a cat, because in a way, we all get to own them! I get to have the strays around to pet when I take a walk, or rub against my leg when I sit on my porch. Not to mention, they can keep the squirrels and lizards around my house in check and you can clean up after them! Everybody wins!
Anonymous
2013.02.0712:06 pm
11:55 am
12:06 pm
You like cats but don’t like the responsibilities of ownership. Why don’t you let them get rid of the roaming cats and get your cat fix by going to one of your responsible cat owner friends.
Or you could if your like the outdoor country feel of roaming animals, Dare I say it? MOVE TO THE COUNTRY LIKE YOU TELL EVERYONE ELSE THAT DOESN’T LIKE THE CHANGING NEIGHBORHOOD!
Anonymous
2013.02.0712:23 pm
Why would I want to do that? The cats are here, and have been here for years, you probably are against the chickens roaming the streets of Ybor City too aren’t you?
Anonymous
2013.02.0712:41 pm
Destroy is such an ugly word, relocation to that Great Scratching post in the Sky has a much more pleasant ring to it. Dont you think?
Anonymous
2013.02.0712:54 pm
I too agree with the previous emails- not all domestic “pets” are microchip due to health/various reasons and feral cats removed from an area without return leads to other feral animals moving-in. You would just be encouraging an endless cycle of ineffective measures and more repopulating. These cats already located can be caught, neutered/spayed and returned. I personally feel that the river vermin would reign on neighborhood lawns, pools and surprise visits at your doors-home and car! (http://www.trtnj.com/issues/100423/news5.php – just suggested reading…)
Please see: http://www.feralcat.com/michelle.html, http://www.tampapets.org/feralcats.php, just a few and the http://www.tampapets listing has other resources for help with this quest.
Please educate before you eradicate!
Alaine
2013.02.074:39 pm
Just an FYI
Cats residing in feral cat colonies are protected under the same Florida laws as other domestic animals.
Feral Cat Colonies
Several counties throughout Florida have one or more feral colonies in which the cats are fed and cared for by volunteers. As of 2003, there were cat colonies in 17 Florida counties. The colonies are often organized and run by the volunteers, although many cat colonies are formed entirely by the cats, based on a common food source, newly found shelter or over population of cats. Cats residing in feral cat colonies are protected under the same Florida laws as other domestic animals.
Read more: Florida Feral Cat Laws | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_6468579_florida-feral-cat-laws.html#ixzz2KHg4MJDF
TNR Programs
Moving away from trap and destroy methods, animal control and humane societies are moving towards trap-neuter-release programs which are designed to humanely control the feral cat population. Abandoned and stray cats are humanely trapped, spayed or neutered and then released to the wild. Trap-Neuter-Return programs are available in ten cities and counties throughout Florida. These include Brevard County, Deerfield Beach, Gainesville, Jacksonville, Miami, Orlando, Ponte Vedre Beach, Sarasota, Seminole County and Tampa.
Cindy
2013.02.081:34 am
” Untargeted TNR in a landmass the size of Hillsborough County does not work … it neither helps much nor harms much.” – Dr. Julie Levy, UF.
Right now, the county is looking at making TNR a part of public policy. This has gone unnoticed by the majority of Hillsborough residents. Pro-TNR advocates have had their voices heard. If you oppose county sanctioned TNR, which even the country’s leading expert in TNR says does not work, WRITE THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS!
Anonymous
2013.02.0811:16 am
It’s a feel good measure like recycling programs that cost more than they contribute or an assault weapons ban because, by God, we must do SOMETHING!
Abigale Cadabra
2013.02.0811:20 am
I think we should get the Mons Venus girls to promote TNR: it would be T&A for TNR. That would be awesome.
Seriously, you bitchez need to calm down and stop complaining about people trying to solve the feral cat problem.
Anonymous
2013.02.085:16 pm
Actually check out Hillsborough County Animal Ordinance, Section 15 A 2 and 3: SECTION 15. COMPANION ANIMALS CREATING NUISANCE
(A) No companion animal shall be allowed to unreasonably annoy humans, to endanger the life or health of other
animals or persons acting lawfully, or to substantially interfere with the rights of others thereby interfering
with the reasonable use and enjoyment of property. It shall be prima facie evidence of nuisance if a companion
animal:
(1) consistently and/or constantly makes excessive noise;
(2) causes damage to or destruction of another’s property;
(3) causes unsanitary, dangerous or offensive conditions, including the fouling of the air by offensive odor
emanating from excessive excrement; or
(4) creates a pest, parasite or scavenger control problem which is not effectively treated.
(B) Upon receipt of an “Affidavit of Complaint,” signed by 2 or more unrelated county residents, each residing in
separate dwellings in the vicinity in which the alleged violation occurred, made under oath or affirmation
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Anonymous
2013.02.089:14 pm
To the original poster and the “27 volunteers”: Come onto my family’s property or business, and see what happens to you. Harm our pet if it wanders into your yard, and see what happens to you or something you love. I DON’T call the police.
Hood Resident
2013.02.128:17 am
Blogger, please use your site stats software and note the IP address for the above poster. The person is making clear threats. We WILL call the police for any attempted assault. Also ,note the hypocrisy, he/she will harm you if you trespass, but thinks it’s just fine for his/her animals to trespass. Property rights go both ways sugar.
Myrtle
2013.02.128:28 am
I wouldn’t put much stock in the keyboard commando Myrtle, anger management isn’t his only shortcoming.
Anonymous
2013.02.128:33 am
Jeebus 8:17 am Are all cat ppl as stupid as you?
NO ONE is going on others private property to set traps.
They’re going to be setting the traps on THEIR private property.
If YOUR cat goes into THEIR private property and into the trap, it better be hoping you had it chipped and up to date on tags.
Even then you’re going to be out a piece of change and time to get it out jail.
Also if you get the urge to go on to the trappers property to get a trap or release a cat, they’ll have every right to do to you what you imagine doing to them
Anonymous
2013.02.129:28 am
If your cat is in public, by law it must be tagged, and by law it cannot roam freely and unattended. I get that you cat whackos may not like or agree with the law, but petition to change the law instead of getting all postal when you face the consequences of failing to abide by it.
Anonymous
2013.02.129:55 am
Domestic cats must be tagged and given shots. Most owners of domestic cats keep their cats in their homes because the streets are so dangerous with cars cutting through from Nebraska and Florida Ave. Cats are allowed outdoors without a leash because they avoid confrontation with people, unlike dogs who may exhibit pack behavior and attack humans. Strangers who approach a cat will discover that the cat will high-tail it away and hide. It is rare indeed that a cat will exhibit aggressive behavior towards a person. That is the reason for the difference in leash laws.
A feral cat is a different story. Feral cats cannot be kept inside a home. They are, as the name indicates…feral. The law allows feral cats to roam freely as long as they are neutered, spayed, and vaccinated.
The cat problem took years of neglect to reach the troublesome issue that it is today. It will not be solved overnight. If the neighborhood had trapped and neutered every cat they saw five years ago..end of problem in 2-5 years. We have to start somewhere and sometime to humanely solve the problem.
You are allowed to take whatever legal measures to keep feral cats out of your yard and feral cat caretakers must make an even greater effort to assist in keeping their colony from becoming a nuisance. The Humane Society recommends a site called “Neighborhood Cats” which supposedly gives you helpful ways to keep cats out of your yard.
You cannot poison, kill, or purposely injure a feral cat.
I have seen TVNR work, but it is not quick or easy. I suggest that everyone give it a chance. I think that there is a dedicated group in the neighborhood who will be willing to spend their time and effort into trapping feral cats and stopping the proliferation of endless litters of kittens.
I have always thought that I lived in a neighborhood that worked together despite differences of opinion.
The blog, has, of course, been very lively lately, but I think that the hateful and snarky comments are not helping our image. I had a friend over to visit me who read the blog. She commented that she was having second thoughts about buying a house here after reading all the nasty posts.
Is this really us? I hope not.
Anonymous
2013.02.1312:54 am
2-5 years?!
Try 2-5 weeks with the trapping.
This is America, the land that invented instant gratification.
What would it take for your friend to have that final third thought about moving here?
Anonymous
2013.02.136:07 am
Anyone who allows an anonymous Internet comment forum to sway their opinion is either incredibly naive or hopelessly ignorant. Read the comment section from any local or national newspaper, the Patch local newsfeeds, or any other geographically-oriented website that allows anonymity and commentary and people are the same not just around the nation, but all over the world. Snarky, caustic, vitriolic, and lest we forget, shamelessly rude personalities are to be found beneath even the most dignified of public faces when unveiled by Internet anonymity. I often see such posts about a friend or coworker is having second thought about the area, usually made-up in some silly attempt to shame those commenting.
SH is an active vibrant community with all the warts of any urban, creative, activist village. We’re attractive to many different types of people, some with very strong, outspoken, and even abrasive personalities. If you notice, sometimes those pills that are the most difficult to swallow are the ones that do us the most good. I couldn’t give two hoots if your friend bought a house here, but she really needs to base such decisions on something more tangible than a silly blog that has lost almost all relevance in the neighborhood today. It’s the equivalent of taking dating advice from a truckstop mens room wall.
Anonymouse
2013.02.138:00 am
12:54 am “If the neighborhood had trapped and neutered every cat they saw five years ago..end of problem in 2-5 years.”
2-5 years?!
Try 2-5 weeks with the trapping.
This is America, the land that invented instant gratification.
What would it take for your friend to have that final third thought about moving here?
Anonymous
2013.02.135:30 pm
I hope you are checking for micro chips. My cat is neutered and micro chipped and is an indoors/outdoors cat. His ear is Not clipped…he is Not feral. He has tags, but does not wear them on a collar, as collars are very dangerous for cats. All the cats in this neighborhood are neutered…they do Not all have their ears clipped or wear collars. So, I also hope you know how to check for surgery that has been performed. Be responsible and do it right. Be respectful of life. Take care of your own neighborhood…let us take care of ours…and only come where you are invited.
Anonymous
2013.02.149:37 pm
Feral cats are one thing and free roaming cats are another. These people better do their research. Seems like a few over zealous people on here don’t know or care for the difference. For those non cat lovers that don’t want cats in your yard or on your car, do you own a hose? Try spraying a cat with a hose once, it will never come back. It doesn’t hurt your neighbors pet and it solves your problem. Do you really want to trap and kill (let’s call it what it really is) a cat because it came in your yard? Really? Why? Would you rather have mice and rats? We live in a warm climate where those vermin populations never die off from a cold winter like they do up north. I don’t personally own cats, just two dogs but many of my neighbors do and as much as I may not like the occasional smell of urine, the sound of a cat fight at in the early morning hours or some small dirty footprints left on my car I sure do appreciate not having any mice or rats on my property or in my garage or attic. in my opinion, we are much better off with free roaming cats helping control the rodent population then without them. I would really take a hard look at someone that has that much hate towards animals as it’s usually a sign of much larger issues. I sure wouldn’t trust a person like that around my child or family. If I owned a cat like many of my neighbors do and some ignorant do-gooder lured it into their yard with the smell of tuna and trapped it and had it killed?? All I can say is they would have some serious issues in their life to deal with for a very long time to come. Take a deep breath and think before you act. Just my two cents….
Rational Mind
2013.02.1611:59 pm
It’s been quite awhile since I’ve been on this blog, having moved several months ago. I will say this. In this rapidly ever changing world, it’s comforting to know some things never change. I’m so glad I don’t live around you self righteous, anti neighbor, prissy ass narcissists anymore. 15 years was enough.
Anonymous
2013.02.1711:51 am
Anonymous @ 11:51. Let me be the first to thank you for improving the neighborhood with your departure, one fewer hypocritical pot is a step in the right direction. God bless.
Anonymous
2013.02.172:09 pm
God bless or I’ll pray for you= christian version of f*** you.
Back at you.
Not sure what qualifies as hypocritical about my post but it apparently made you feel better to write that. Thanks for proving my point.
Anonymous
2013.02.176:03 pm
And thanks for proving 2:09’s point. You’re as much a part problem as you see in the world as anyone else. Your preachy shit-don’t-stink attitude is no better than those you sought to impeach. The bigger person would’ve moved on, and left all this behind, yet you felt compelled to post, perhaps you start with the person in the mirror before casting stones. Eff you
Anonymous
2013.02.176:39 pm
Excoriating me to be the better person, then telling me to f*** off.
You got a trophy for just showing up, didn’t you?
Anonymous
2013.02.1711:12 pm
It’s like shooting fish in a barrel. I’ll pray for you.
Anonymous
2013.02.188:11 pm
Love the drama! Keep it up, drama queens!
Anonymous
2013.02.198:16 am
ain’t no drama like yo mama
Anonymous
2013.02.198:35 am